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stewart one night during the bush presidency and then come back and talk to me about obama. >> sensitivity training for all clowns. that's a wrap on "news watch." judy, jim, noah, alan and rick, thank you. hello everyone. i'm greg jarrett, thanks for being with us and welcome to a brand new hour inside america's news headquarters. >> i'm heather childers. we have breaking reports on incidents involving dozens of muslim brotherhood supporters dying in police custody. >> and firefighters pouring into central idaho right now to battle a wildfire threatening thousands of homes near a luxury ski resort. a live report on that growing inferno. >> and a stunning new development on the death of princess diana, why british
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police say they're examining the relevance and credibility on newly received information on the deaths of diana and her companion dodi. new reaction now to the growing nsa scandal. they broke rules thousands of times. this after president obama repeatedly assured americans that the agency had not overstepped its bounds. now critics on both sides of the aisle raising new questions about nsa oversight. elizabeth live from washington with more. elizabeth, there is renewed talk now of legislation. what are some lawmakers proposing? >> well, lawmakers are discussing whether a failed former amendment would have fundamentally changed the way the agency could collect personal information and if it should be brought to the table again. this is a national security agency defended its tactics as americans learned this week it violated privacy rules on thousands of occasions while
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some were unintendsed, others showed breaches of stan ard procedures. house and senate argue if there needs to be more advance approval including court or congressional oversight. >> now we need to hold another classified hearing just for the committee so we can drill down into the issues of how the programs are being operated, what information is being gathered, under what circumstances have they prevented terrorist attacks, and how much does all of this cost? >> the white house reacting saying in part while the majority of the incidents were unintentional, the agency is monitoring and addressing compliance incidents. gregg. >> well, on the other hand there are lawmakers, are there not, who do vigorously support the surveillance programs? >> reporter: oh, absolutely. many lawmakers agree surveillance programs play a vital role in protecting americans. representative peter king, member of the house homeland security committee says the problem lies not in the program but in the president's incompetence in explaining the very complex role of collecting
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metadata. >> it was not a problem. the fact is it worked. if you have 99.99% compliance and so few reporting errors, these came from an internal report that then becomes part of an overall i.g. report. i'm on the intelligence committee. i am satisfied. >> as far as leaker edward snowden is concerned, king believes the leaks have damaged our national security and he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. gregg, back to you. >> elizabeth prann in washington, elizabeth, thank you. >> reporter: thanks. breaking developments in the crisis in egypt. security sources saying that dozens of muslim brotherhood supporters have died in police custody. and there are conflicting reports on the deaths as details are still coming in, but now there is potential for more bloodshed as both the government and islamist opponents remain defiant after days of deadly clashes.vitter is live for us.
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>> reporter: heather, it appears right now egyptian security forces were possibly trying to move some of the detainees. they've rounded up hundreds if not thousands of members of the muslim brotherhood. and as they tried to move them, about 36 or so tried to make a run for it. what's unclear is if they had any help from the outside, perhaps gunmen on the outside from the muslim brotherhood. either way, 36 people dead right now in that prison break. it is a bloody end to what otherwise was a very calm day, day three of the muslim brotherhood day of rage. certainly didn't live up to its name. a couple hundred people marched towards the supreme court there in egypt. they were met by tanks and armored personnel carriers and then turned around and went home. absent were the gunmen we have seen in the past couple of days from the muslim brotherhood, like yesterday at a mosque in central cairo where police and riot police had to fight their way into the mosque to try to arrest these gunmen who had been firing indiscriminately out into the crowd. when they finally were able to
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arrest them, the crowd outside ended up cheering for the police. the muslim brotherhood roundup not only is consistent with taking out the leadership of the muslim brotherhood, but the larger jihadist network all throughout egypt including this man, mohamed al zawahiri. he's the brother of the leader of al qaeda and a well-known militant there in egypt and served many years in egypt for militant attacks. and the egyptian military forces believe he was perhaps trying to plan another attack somewhere inside of cairo perhaps bringing in militants from the sanai peninsula, which are extremely well-armed for that attack. so this lull in the violence we've seen and the number of arrests here way too early to call this over for this round of violence, but it certainly means that both sides have a chance to take a step back from the brink of civil war that they've been at so far. back to you. >> all right. leland vittert reporting live for us. thank you.
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on july 3rd egypt e jipt's military police announced mohamed morsi was deposed to be replaced by the chief justice of the supreme constitutional court until new presidential elections. no timeframe was given. that same day muslim brotherhood leaders were arrested. and tens of thousands of them remain camped out in two mass sit-ins in cairo streets. on july 7th the muslim brotherhood called on egyptians to rise up against what they called those who "want to steal the revolution." on july 10th egypt ordered the arrest of the muslim brotherhood top leader as well as nine others -- nine other leading islamists for inciting violence. and on august 14th security forces moved in to clear those protest camps. then the egyptian interim president announced a one-month state of emergency. >> also in the turbulent middle east right now an influx of syrian refugees pouring into iraq. the united nations saying as
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many as 7,000 syrians crossed the border in this latest surge. more expected to follow. all told nearly 2 million syrians have left their country since the civil war began. in the meantime, a united nations team of chemical weapons experts now on the ground in syria investigating the possible use of chemical weapons. regime and the rebels have both accused one another of using them. the u.n. team will try to determine only if they were actually used, but not by whom. extreme weather gripping the west. heavy wind fueling multiple wildfires across the region. in idaho the beaver creek fire forcing more people to leave their homes. crews say that they're making some progress in controlling the fire, but containment still low at this point. we're live from the west coast bureau with the latest details. dominic. >> hey there, heather. well, idaho fire officials are
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saying the smoke that's being choking the canyons in sun valley has started to lift and that means helicopters are back in the air at long last. looking like hornets they are how one official described it to us a moment ago, the first sight of the flurry being dropped is destined for the spot fire bearing down from the hillside at the hospital south of the city of ketchum. that's been growing. it's been an area of concern all day. well, the city is under threat according to one official we spoke to. but there are no priors inside the city yet. sun valley of course famous for being a vacation destination for the rich and famous. a lot of upscale homes in half a dozen canyons at risk of catching fire, but officials saying no one's getting special treatment in the battling of this blaze. >> to firefighters a home is a home is a home. and what we mean by that is we're here to protect, first of all, firefighters safety and the
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public's safety is paramount. and then behind that comes protection of structures including homes. and it doesn't matter whose home it is, we're going to try to protect it. >> well, it's heavy going for the bulldozers trying to bols the containment. erratic winds and steep terrain mean the fire trucks can't always get to the front lines. the beaver creek fire now bigger than the city of denver. by latest official estimates, that is. nearly 1,200 firefighters are working on it and still only 9% of it contained. this is proving to be quite a fight, heather. back to you. >> absolutely is. dominic di-natale reporting live for us. >> when will the crews catch a break? our meteorologist live in the fox extreme weather center. hey, jd. >> hi, gregg. unfortunately we're going to be dealing with very warm conditions and gusty winds in the forecast. not much in the way of relief in terms of moisture getting into this area. and you can see the temperatures
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across the west. we have dozens of wildfires burning. your highs tomorrow in boise close to 100 degrees. medford, 97, 97 in reno. not only the idaho area, but all up and down the california coastline we have red flag watches and warnings in effect. but i also want to point your attention to hailey, which is where we are talking about where that wildfire is burning, they are under a fire weather watch as well as a red flag warning, meaning that conditions are favorable for wildfires. very low relative humidity, in the single digits, not much moisture and we could see gusty winds. so the past 48 hours we have some monsoonal moisture across the southwest, but it's not making its way into this region, unfortunately. so hailey, in and around the hailey area, sun valley, dry conditions for the next couple of days. now, on tuesday, we have a slight chance of thunderstorms. but because it's so dry in this area, any moisture is probably going to evaporate before it hits the ground. and we could have dry lightning, which means no moisture and the
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lightning which could spark more wildfires. so that's going to be a big concern. and as you can see heading through the workweek temperatures are going to remain in the upper 80s, close to 90 degrees. and of course we have the threat for those breezy conditions. drought monitor shows you across the west we are dealing with anywhere from moderate to exceptional drought whereas across the east we have flooding concerns. i just want to touch upon that real quick because in this case we're dealing with a surplus of moisture. we talked about watches and warnings up and down the east coast for flooding concerns throughout the workweek in your next hour in the 5:00 p.m. hour. we'll keep you up-to-date on both of those stories, gregg, heather, back to you. >> we will see you then. janice dean, thank you very much. heather. >> we are just getting started. still ahead, a shocking new claim about the death of princess diana. why scotland yard is investigating new information nearly 16 years after she died in a paris car crash.
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president obama taken a dive in the polls big time over his handling of the economy. our senior business correspondent, brenda butler, joins us in a moment on what may explain that drop. and, new fallout over a federal judge's ruling that the way new york city is using its stop and frisk policy violates the constitution. does it really? we're going to hear from the big apple's top cop. >> you're talking about the common law right and indeed now it's statutory for police officers, their ability to stop someone in a public place who they have reasonable suspicion may be committing a crime, is about to commit a crime or has committed a crime. now, this has been codified throughout the united states. [ female announcer ] a classic macaroni & cheese from stouffer's
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welcome back. time for a quick check of the headlines. the first sexual abuse case against former penn state assistant football coach jerry sandusky has been settled. a young man who testified he was a victim will get a reported multi-million-dollar payout. and mexican security forces reportedly capturing the leader of a cocaine cartel. this comes -- makes the second
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major gang boss caught in just over a month. and north korea accepting a south korean offer for talks on reuniting families separated by war. last week the two koreas agreed to work toward a settlement of a jointly-run factory raising hopes for improved ties between the rivals. president obama's approval rating's taking a big dive. look at this. a recent gallup poll showing just 35% of americans approve the president's handling of the economy. that's down from 42% in june. 62% now disapprove. this despite the president's heavy focus on the economy in a series of speeches this summer. what in the world is going on? joining us now is senior business correspondent anchor of "bulls and bears." he's lost seven points this month along. it's almost as if his barn storming speech-giving tour of the nation on the economy did more harm than good. >> yeah, i think he would have done better if he'd just stayed
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golfing in martha's vineyard. what's very interesting about this is the speeches are just the same old tired policies that we have tried before and have not worked. stimulus, essentially having government pay for bringing unemployment down. it didn't work with using billions of dollars. why should it work now? and i think the american people are recognizing that. >> and since he took office, 21 new or higher taxes. so i think the poll numbers are reflecting that as well. and of course economic growth is absolutely abysmal. it's below 2%. it should be 5% or 6%. >> absolutely. this is a very, very tepid recovery. we've had four years of recovery. it's been basically a jobless recovery. we should be seeing 6% economic growth, we're at 2%, even below right now. >> and, you know, look. take a look at this other gallup poll here. the economy and unemployment 44%, you know, say this is the
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most important issue. those two things. and then look at this fox news poll. 71%, as you point out, think that his recent economic speeches are just, you know, sort of the same old tired stuff that ain't working. and it's devoid of any new ideas. >> yeah. what's interesting about this gallup poll was that it was taken before the dow took its worst weekly drop in more than a year. it lost 2.2%. >> right. >> so we're going to be talking about the wealth effect in the next hour. basically people feel wealthier if their home prices are up and if their stock prices are up. the stock market, who knows what's going to be happening. so that could be another weight on the economy. >> well, it's real people feeling the real effects of the economy. whether it's stagnant economic growth or joblessness or low wages -- and speaking of low wages, i wrote this down in july. 58% of the jobs created were in low wage industries. many were part-time jobs. average hours worked and average weekly wages fell.
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>> and what we hear is that the part-time jobs in large part are because of obama care. people want to hire part-timers instead of full-timers so they don't have to pay those benefits. >> so it's having the opposite effect that the president promised. >> well, yes. and it hasn't been implemented yet. >> yeah. it's only going to get worse, right? >> and the other issue is, you know, the president is supporting the fed's policy of printing money of basically buying bonds. and, you know, that has an impact on the economy, on our debt and on our deficit. and now that the fed is starting to perhaps pull back, interest rates are going up, what happens to the housing market? >> yeah. you know, i mentioned the awful monthly jobs report, if you do a little calculation, the rate of progress it will take an entire generation, that would be 24 years plus, to get americans completely back to work. i mean, we're 15 million full-time jobs away from full
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employment. >> yeah. and if you look at the labor participation rate, which is in the low 60s, the lowest in decades. people are just not participating in the workforce. they're not able to. and many just, you know, don't even want to try to look for jobs because they haven't been able to find one. >> is it true that free market economies will notwithstanding bad policies by bad politicians, will eventually right themselves? >> well, adam smith would say so, but the problem is that we have -- when government hampers and hinders the economy, it's hard for the free market to right itself. we have so many -- we have government by regulation, by executive order, we have gridlock in d.c., huge deficit. yes, perhaps thein visible hand will work in there, but i don't know. it's being handcuffed right now. >> all right. you're going to talk about the wealth effect in the next hour, which is fascinating. thanks, brenda buttner, as always. you can catch brenda on "bulls
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and bears" every sunday morning 10:00 a.m. eastern right here on the fox news channel. check it out. coming up, stunning new information on princess diana's death nearly two decades ago. scotland yard is now re-examining new evidence. and brian yennis is joining us live with more on that story. >> hi, heather. this new allegation claims princess diana was killed by a member of the british military. scotland yard is "assessing the relevance and credibility of this new information given to them by the former inlaws of a former soldier of the elite british special air force service." reportedly the soldier boasted the military was behind the death of the princess of wales. on august 31st, 1997, princess diana and her boyfriend left the hotel in paris france, followed by paparazzi, princess diana, al fayed and their driver hit a
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pill pillar. blaming paparazzi for the death. conspiracy theories believe however diana was murdered. these are nothing new. some theorize prince phillip had diana killed because she was pregnant with dodi's child and they were supposed to get married. others thing the driver was an m.i. agent sent to kill diana. and then there's diana's seat belt, some believe it was purposely tampered with so she couldn't wear it. >> these pop up like clockwork. this is all this is. however, because this allegation came via the military, scotland yard, the police in the u.k. are doing due diligence and looking into the credibility of the allegation. >> scotland yard stresses this is not a reinvestigation into princess diana's death. buckingham palace has no comment. >> bryan, thank you. >> what do you think? >> i think it will be a
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it is the bottom of the hour. that means it's time for the top of the news. and out of egypt new reports of dozens of muslim brotherhood supporters dying in police custody in northern cairo. the egyptian interior ministry claims the detainees were killed while trying to escape from prison. other reports claim the men suffocated in an overcrowded police van. strong winds, dry brush are fueling a very large wildfire in central idaho. that blaze is now threatening thousands of homes.
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and in san diego, a campaign to boot mayor bob filner out of office now underway. 16 women claim filner made inappropriate sexual advances in the workplace. growing questions over what's next for obama care. the president's signature law still facing a long list of troubles as it's start date approaches. and republicans are pushing forward with their efforts to repeal the whole thing. many have raised the threat of a government shutdown. and now a powerful republican senator says he has a better idea. peter ducey with that story in washington. peter. >> reporter: this morning we heard senator rand paul lay out a road map that he thinks would represent the best of both worlds for republicans. a way to avoid a government shutdown and defund obama care. here's how it would work. first, the house would vote to repeal the affordable care act as they have dozens of times before. then the senate would likely vote to keep the law as is. so a compromise could come,
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senator paul says, from that stalemate between the chambers at a closed-door house and senate conference meeting. >> we should use the leverage of controlling one-third of the government. we don't control all of the government, but republicans control the house of representatives. they should stand up, use that power to at the very least make this law less bad, delay it, do something we can to protect the american public from this law. or if we do nothing, we're just saying to the president, hey, you get your way. >> reporter: but president obama sees things differently. and he used his weekly address to sharply criticize republicans who want to alter the affordable care act in any way. >> many republicans are more concerned with how badly this debate will hurt them politically than they are with how badly it will hurt the country. a lot of republicans seem to believe that if they can gum up the works and make this law fail, they'll somehow be sticking it to me. but they'd just be sticking it to you. >> reporter: before he left for
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vacation, president obama talked about republicans and said, "they're unifying principle is making sure 30 million people don't have health care." gregg. >> peter doocy, peter, thanks very much. remember, you can see the entire interview with kentucky senator rand paul on fox news sunday, that's coming up tonight at 6:00 p.m. eastern time right here on the fox news channel. well, the battle over immigration heating up, some democrats now pushing the so-called plan b. in it president obama would legalize millions of undocumented immigrants if congress fails to act. meanwhile, republicans are struggling within their ranks for a clear message on reform. >> i think there is widespread agreement in the american public and in the republican party that we need immigration reform. i also think there is an opportunity, as you said, we need to make things better. well, let's make this bill better. let's do the things we need to do to make it work. >> but until immigration reform gets done, the republican party
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is not going to be heard. so, yeah, they're fighting amongst themselves. and i actually think that's a bad thing, i agree, that's a good thing to have. >> a former white house political director under president george w. bush, and maxwell, a democratic strategist and contributor for ebony.com, thank you both for joining us. >> thank you, heather. >> just to summaryize, the idea is to freeze the current undocumented -- in place, give them work permits and perhaps for a better deal under the next president. the move would not be without precedent for this administration. stopped the deportation of hundreds of thousands of undocumented youth through its deferred action program. politically some argue that all president obama needs to implement plan b is proof congress can't get the job done. matt, is this a possibility? and what is the fallout? >> you know, heather, i guess obama would never surprise me by
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doing something like this with so many other things he's done. he believes in raw president shshl power. i think it would be a massive mistake. i think democratic leadership would be very upset about this. it would be in essence taking this issue out of the hands of the elected officials in congress whose job it is to adjudicate on this matter. i mean, the senate has come up with a compromise and passed a bill. and now bob goodlat also on weekend shows this weekend, has described a path forward in the republican-led house. it's going to have to be a bill that's more conservative and democrats are going to have to suck it up. >> if the president were to do this, this plan b, and the president granted amnesty to 11 million undocumented immigrants, is that another example of executive overreach by this administration? >> no. because i think we're giving congress an opportunity to do the right thing here. the fact plan b is on the table,
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as it should be, all options should be on the table, the president would only be stepping in because congress is failing to do something. and, you know, that's on the house republicans. many don't have to answer to their own districts. doing something on immigration reform is not something that's helpful to them politically. but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be good for the country. even grover norquist and the institute agree comprehensive immigration reform would be good for america, good for the economy. and house republicans, really, i mean would be dropping the ball by not doing something. so putting this on the president, that's only after congress fails to do the right thing. >> and i think people would agree with that, that there does need to be comprehensive immigration reform. both sides talk about the need for that. but, matt, the majority of americans seem to support securing the border first. >> that's right. this is the problem. >> that's part of the bill though. >> this isn't the problem, heather. >> 69% agree that requiring, you know, border security changes before changing immigration and
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policy. so should border security be a separate issue? >> yeah, we just heard from c carly feorini. there are plenty of conservatives on the republican side who want to see immigration reform. you're exactly right, heather, boarder security has to come first. and if the democrats don't accept that, there will be no bill. and they'll be responsible for killing the bill. bottom line is even if the president were to say even with the dreamer that he's going to give them temporary legal status, he doesn't solve the problem of people overstaying their visas and he doesn't solve the problem of a porous border where people are cutting into the country. no matter what the president does, he can't solve this until he does one thing first, which is take a step with republicans towards easing this concern that our borders are our problem. let's spend the money and do what it takes to secure them. and then we can come up with a compromise on these other issues. >> zerlina, on that point
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according to the government homeland security department has lost track of more than one million who it knows arrived in the u.s. but can't prove they left the country. so how can we pass any immigration bill if we still don't have a workable system to track entries and exits and cut down on the so-called visa overstays matt talked about? >> there's millions and millions of dollars in border security in the senate bill. so the idea that this bill that is now coming to the house after being passed in the senate doesn't address the issue of border security is just not true. >> it doesn't do it first. it does it second. >> it's included in the bill. many of us actually think -- listen, it's comprehensive because it addresses more than one issue in a single piece of legislation. so i mean it's really parsing to say -- >> that's what scares people. >> we need to do it first or second, it is part of the same bill. >> matt, the senate's comprehensive bill, it does spend $35 billion on new border patrol agents and fencing among some other things, but, you know, when they return after
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this august recess, there's a lot on the plate. >> that's right. >> do you think immigration reform will be put on the back burner? >> very tough, heather. especially with a looming shutdown potentially with the budget. we're having to come up with a budget compromise. it's going to be very hard to get this done. it doesn't mean it can't get done, but republicans around the house are going to have to compromise if we're going to get to a bill. >> all right. we'll see if plan b. is an option. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you, heather. edward snowden, bradley manning and now another high-profile espionage case. an american soldier accused of trying to sell military secrets to the russians. we'll have the details next. plus, dire warnings from new york city's police commissioner. why he's saying that a judge's ruling is putting lives in danger. hey linda! what are you guys doing? having some fiber! with new phillips' fiber good gummies. they're fruity delicious!
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welcome back. an espionage trial has begun for a retired sailor accused of trying to sell military secrets to russian spies. the fbi arrested robert hoffman last year in a sting operation. they say that he leaked classified information to an undercover agent including things like how the navy tracks foreign warships. hoffman claims innocence saying he was trying to lure the spy in. his trial coming after fugitive nsa leaker edward snowden received asylum in russia and bradley manning was convicted of spilling government secrets to wikileaks. a new fallout after a federal judge ruled the nypd's controversial stop and frisk policy is being used in an unconstitutional way. now the city's police commissioner, ray kelly, is speaking out claiming the ruling could lead to lives being lost. >> no question about it violent crime will go up. officers have to have the right
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of inquiry f. they see some suspicious behavior. so i can assure you this is not just a new york city issue, it's an issue throughout america. and this case has to be appealed in my judgment because it will be taken as a template and have significant impact in policing throughout america. >> let's bring in keisha, former prosecutor, defense attorney. and david, former prosecutor, defense attorney. david, stop and frisk can be used, just has to be used according to the judge in a race-neutral way. but, look, a black detective testified not about race, it's about behavior. we're targeting people based on their behavior. is the judge wrong? >> no, the judge is not wrong. i don't know why the city is getting so excited about this. they're making it seem like stop and frisk has been thrown out. we had stop and frisk. terri versus ohio, it is constitutional.
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what we can't do is carry it out in a disproportionate way. >> wait a minute. if blacks and hispanics commit a disproportionate number of crimes, they're going to disproportionately be stopped and frisked. >> okay. under that theory, yes. but that's not what's happening, gregg. what's happening is that blacks and hispanics are being disproportionately being stopped in a way where there's no reasonable suspicion. >> here i want to play a sound bite of ray kelly. then i'll get your response, keisha. >> okay. >> here is ray kelly earlier today. he makes a very important point. take a listen. >> 4.4 million stops. and out of that number of stops over a ten-year period, the expert working for the plaintiff found 6% to be unjustified. the judge in the case looked at 19 stops. and they could have been any stops that the plaintiff chose. she found that ten of the 19 stops were constitutionally acceptable.
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so we believe that the formula that was used which uses census data is fundamentally flawed. >> this is ridiculous. out of four million plus stops she looks at 19 of them and finds that 6% were wrong. that's statistically insignificant, isn't it? >> i agree. and one of the things you said, gregg, is that if a certain amount of people or class of people are disproportionally committing crimes, it is going to lead the police to, you know, target them. and i don't agree with racial profiling, but again, don't loiter around an apartment building, don't walk around with certain clothing and looking a suspicious way. and i think what the police officers have to do is make sure they're not abusing this reasonable suspicion standard. >> you mentioned terry v. ohio, fourth amendment is not violated when officer stops and frisks suspect if there is, look at
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number two, reasonable belief the person may be armed and dangerous. an experienced cop, david, can tell if somebody is armed. you ask any cop and he can tell, most of them can, if somebody is armed. that's reasonable belief. >> absolutely. and, you know, over 90% of the cops, the police officers, do their job properly. however, i don't care what the judge looked at in this case. i was in the brooklyn d.a.'s office and i know in certain neighborhoods kids and people were being stopped for no reasonable suspicion whatsoever. they were being stopped because -- there's a big difference between living in east new york and the upper east side. >> you got bad doctors, you got bad lawyers, you got bad cops, but they are statistically insignificant. the judge found only 6%. now, you're going to change the entire policy and blame it on race based on 6%? >> what's wrong with the monitor? the fbi has a monitor? why is the nypd so afraid of having a monitor? this is a good lawyer going to
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monitor the nypd. >> but i think what commissioner kelly is saying that his officers are in the trenches. so they get an idea of what the people are -- i hate to say look like, but who's committing most of the crimes. and i read statistics showing that the majority of the apartment buildings that are participating in this program, i think it's called the clean halt program, are the public housing projects. so, you know, reality the facts are the facts. >> and success is success. you've gone from roughly 2,262 murders a year to only 417. >> because we have tremendous police force. >> no, because they've been employing a very effective policy. >> and no one is saying that terry versus ohio is out the window. no one is saying that. it's a monitor, gregg. >> but philadelphia has a monitor. >> 40% -- >> the city council complained, oh, racism, racism. so ray kelly appears before the city council and he says, you know what, do you understand that the lives that we are
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saving here are blacks and hispanics? and all of a sudden it was silence on the city council. >> right. i think one of the things that we need to look at is those people, the innocent people living in those communities. they may be happy to have this policy. they're saving their children, they're keeping their houses safe. what i think is a problem when people are harassed and they're innocent. you don't want that. >> forget about the city council. they were bamboozled into thinking we did away with terry versus ohio. >> no, they're naive and uninformu unfmpled. thank you very much. president obama coming under fire on his handling in egypt. what the u.s. can do to stop the bloodshed and save face. [ male announcer ] house rule number 14. a great cup of coffee should be easy as one, two... well, just one. new single serve cafe collections from maxwell house
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critics say diplomatic efforts have failed to win on either side and our credibility is on
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the line. we're live with more. thanks for joining us. >> thank you, heather. >> talk about aid first. washington seems to be divided on sending foreign aid to egypt. it looks like the president wants to freeze the joint exercises, but not yet cut aid. some legislators they want an immediate freeze of aid, some say it's a mistake. what would be your analysis on the u.s. aid now going to egypt? >> well, i think that the policy on the u.s. aid has to be part of a policy on egypt. it's not separate. i mean, the problem in this city, in this town, in d.c., is that there's a confusion about what is the muslim brotherhood, what do they want to achieve? it's not just a return of morsi. they have a political plan. and what the government of egypt wants to respond. my suggestion would be that if we want to cancel -- and we did those joint exercises with the army as a signal, at the same time we need to tell the muslim brotherhood we are suspending our aid to you because maybe not many people know that we have joint training sessions with
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them. so always be even when we are going to deal with egypt. to tell the brother they need to disarm. tell the brotherhood they need to disarm and come back with a political process and help the egyptian army continue fighting al qaeda. we need to have a design and architecture for egypt. >> i want to ask about the administration and the image problem. you're touching on that briefly in a way. you know, do we have an image probable as a result of our initial reaction to egypt as a perceived backer of morsi and the brotherhood? and how can that image be repaired? both sides don't like us right now. >> absolutely, heather. you actually said it. we have a problem with all of egypt at this point in time. not just both sides but even the christian minority, which is supposed to be the closest to the united states is now very frustrated that we have not responded in a clear way when they attacked 61 churches were
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destroyed. but the muslim brotherhood ied logically, they dislike the united states but have accepted a sort of partnership and now they claim not helping them. we're talking 33 million demonstrators and majority in egypt, they are shocked that we basically are partnering with the muslim brotherhood, are not trying to find a political solution whereby egypt will move forward to democracy. there's a lot of work washington needs to do ahead. >> you reference the christians there, they make up about 8 million of egypt's population of 80 million. they've been victims of muslim attacks for years. and some christians were worried when islamists took over egypt's government back in 2012. and they were relieved when the military ousted them from power last month. but since the july 3rd coup that ousted morsi, christians have actually faced a spike in violent attacks. and the egyptian authorities have not prevented them, at least that's the perception. so what more needs to be done to protect them? >> well, first of all, as i said, the president needs to be
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very direct with the muslim brotherhood. if we have any clout, if all these relationships that we are accused of do function, he needs to tell the leadership of the muslim brotherhood disarm, don't be violent anymore. then he needs to address the army and tell the army, we are giving you foreign aid. direct some of this aid to defend the christian churches in egypt. so we need to be very active in making real suggestions to the egyptians. >> and clear. >> and very clear. that's the most important point. >> walid, thank you so much for joining us. we enjoy your insight as always. >> thank you. evacuation orders are expanding as a massive wildfire in idaho continues to blaze a trail of destruction. the latest on the containment efforts and who is now in the danger zone. [ male announcer ] running out of steam?
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welcome to a brand-new hour "inside america's news headquarters." >> glad you are with us. toning the hour, new reaction to bombshell revelations over the scope of the nsa surveillance program suggesting that the snooping was even more widespread than we ever knew. >> plus, the republicans are not exactly one happy family after new jersey governor chris christie takes aim at members of his own party. our political insiders weigh in on the growing squabble in the gop. >> and new cyber concerns. hacking attacks on medical devices. what you need to know to keep
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you and your family safe. we begin with the extreme weather out west. dry, gusty conditions fueling multiple wildfires across the region. side i'd especially -- idaho especially hard hit. the massive beaver creek fire forcing more people out of their homes. dominic is live from our west coast bureau with more. hi, dominic. >> hi, greg. well 2300 homes now evacuated and the fire is spreading through a series of side canyons in sun valley. these canyons are where a lot of celebrities have built holiday homes and vacation homes in subdivisions there. they are really testing the resources of the firecrews there. >> these homes that are up in these canyons, tucked away in these canyons, and there is at least six major canyons before you actually get that are cot -- that are south of kechum.
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that's where they are doing a lot of the work. the city of kechum itself is threatened. >> in the city, no flames inside the city. this afternoon the helicopters finally return to where they were pre veant -- prevented from taking off in the morning due to heavy smoke that choked up sun valley. they are dropping retardant on a spot fire south of the city of kechum. that's a new 30-bed hospital and there is plenty of attention to saving that. only one of the two dc-10 bombers is making runs in sun valley. they had a technical fail failure and was out of service. otherwise both would have been in the skies this weekend. and just to recap on the data, it has grown an additional 12 square miles today, twice the size of cinncinati now. still only 9% contained, but
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it is expanding at a slower pace than we have seen and that's because we had better weather overnight and the deployment of more crews, 1200 firefighters. greg, back to you. >> dominic, thanks very much. heather? >> the firecrews could certainly use some relief and help from mother nature. when will they get it? our meteorologist is live in the fox extreme weather center with more on that. hi, janice. >> hi, heather and greg. i wish i had better news. they are seeing a little moisture creeping in from the southwest. it is monsoon season south of this area, but all in all, we are going to see very dry conditions and warm temperatures and low relative humidity. you can see much of the area of the northwest sweltering today through the workweek. we have dozens of wildfires burning not only in the northwest, but down into california. a dangerous situation for much of the west. idaho itself, close to a dozen fires burning including the beaver creek fire which we are
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talking about only 9% containment. temperatures right now 88 degrees and gusts up 23 miles per hour and monday looks like temperatures will sore around 91 degrees. we will keep a close eye on this area. beautiful country and unfortunately we are not going to get a lot of moisture. you can see this is the sat late late -- the satellite-radar imagery. we have moisture to the south and moisture to the east of the region where we could see the potential for severe weather including large hail and damaging winds and even isolated tornadoes in parts of the dakotas and up toward minnesota. we will keep an eye on all of the severe weather and greg and heather coming up at the bottom of the hour, talk about extreme flooding over the southeast. it is a tale of either you have too much rain or you don't have any at all unfortunately. >> a tale of haves and have notes. thank you, janice. we will check back with you. the crisis in egypt is escalating. security forces now saying that dozens of muslim
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brotherhood supporters that died while in police custody. and right now conflicting claims from both sides on exactly what happened. this as the government and the islamist opponents are defiant after days of deadly clashes. leyland vitard has more from the mideast bureau. >> greg, the egyptian army promised an ever on well ming response. the muslim brotherhood armed attacks on them and much of cairo. so far the combination of mass arrests and a powerful show of force is working as it appears a vast majority of egyptians is siding with the army. day three of the brotherhood's week of rage certainly didn't live up to its name. a few hundred brotherhood supporters meeting army tanks. missing from today's small crowd was the brotherhood gunman who brought carnage to the streets since wednesday. like those who used a mosque min -- to force them out.
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now the battle of egyptians hearts and minds have begun. muslim brotherhood supporters inviting cameras for the funeral processions and state tv with senior officers visiting soldiers and police in the fighting. the minister of defense released this pictures of the christian churches burned and looted by supporters. when strong man spoke a banner on the screen said egypt fighting terrorism. "i want to tell you that the honor of protecting the will of the people is more available to us and to me personally has been the honor of ruling egypt" he said. striking a more conciliatory tone and a place for even in egypt's future despite the violencement. >> it is far too early to call this round of violence over, but the law gives both sides a -- the wall gives both sides a chance to step back from the
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brink of a civil war. it is home to the sue -- sue wees saw national that would have foreign economic prices and send gas prices soaring. greg? >> leyland vitard, thanks. and back in this country, republican senator john mccain is saying that the united states should suspend aide to egypt as the military continues its crackdown. >> i wanted to give them an opportunity to do the right thing after the coup had taken place. it was pretty clear to say the least that they not only have not changed, but they have orchestrated a masacre, as you mentioned. we don't know if thousands or many thousands wounded. >> republican congressman peter king though disagrees telling fox news sunday that curtailing aide could influence the government which
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controls access to very important strategic suez canal. critics on both sides of the aisle are raising questions about nsa oversight. this after the latest leaks revealed the agency broke privacy regulations thousands of times. now it is a contrast of president obama's repeated assurances that the agency had not over stepped its bounds. liz beth pram -- elizabeth pram is live with us now. >> the a agency is defending its tactics as america learned it violated privacy rules thousands of times over. the infractions include typing area code errors to intrusive storage and leaked communications. while some unintended they showed breeches of standard procedures. lawmakers discussed whether a failed former amendment that would have fundamentally changed the way the agency could collect personal information. the bill's author says it may
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be something on the table during next sessionment. >> i am hopeful we will have another opportunity. not be thee amendment. this is an amendment to an approprations bill. it had to be written in a particular way. >> lawmakers remain on both sides of the spectrum while some say the problem lies not in the program, but in the president's incompetents and explaining the complex role of collecting meta data. others say the program does need moreover sight whether it be court or congressional. >> i recommend before they do anything they go to the court and get a citizen's advocate and take it before the court. >> if you have 99.99% compliance and have self-reporting errors this came from an ter national report that -- an internal report that is then an ig report.
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i am satisfied. >> the white houses reacting and saying the majority was unintentional and the agency is monitoring and addressing any compliance incidents. heather, back to you. >> elizabeth live from washington, thank you, elizabeth. two weeks after being closed due to a terrorist threat the united kingdom and germ see -- germany reopening their embassies in yemen. other u.s. diplomatic posts shutdown because of the threat have since been reopened. shocking new information emerging on princess diana's death. brian? >> the internet and british tabloids are going crazy over the new allegation that princess diana was killed by a member of the british military. scotland yard is looking into the relevance and credibility of the new information given by the former in-laws of a former soldier of the elite
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british special air force service. reportedly the soldier boasted the military was behind the death of the princess of wales. >> diana's death was britain's jfk moment on many levels. we have corresponding conspiracy theories like you do here in america. there is always that fascination . i guess on some levels as well she died young, she was beautiful. but it is sad that we can't focus on letting her rest in peace and focusing on her legacy. >> in 199736-year-old princess diana and her boyfriend dodial fayed left a hotel in france. followed by paparazzi princess diana andal fayed were killed. they blamed grossly negligent driving and paparazzi for the death. conspiracy theorists say diana was murdered. >> we will get this every year
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prior to the death of diana, princess of wales. i think the police did a thorough investigation prior to the inquest. that's why we had an inquest. >> scotland yard stresses that this is not a reinvestigation into the death. buckingham palace has no comment. heather? >> thank you, brian. double amputee ole olympian oscar pistorius and due to appear in a courtroom tomorrow. they say he will be indicted on a main charge of premeditated murder in the purr expected death of his girlfriend, steenkamp. he said he accidentally shot her thinking she was a dangerous intruder in the middle of the night. the trial is expected to start in 2 014. more americans are spending their hard-earned cash despite gloomy economic reports. a look at what is being called the wealth affect. >> major flooding in the southeast right now as the region just can't seem to get
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a break from the drefning rains. drenching rains. janice joins us with the forecast. >> and warning devices like pacemakers and insulin pumps may be vulnerable to hackers.
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welcome back. time for a quick check of the headlines. mexican security forces reportedly capturing the leader of a cocaine cartel. this would be the second major gang boss caught in over a month. in the meantime, a gruesome discovery in two mexican states where 25 bodies have been found, the apparent victims of three masacres in an area with a very long history of drug violence. a volcano in southern japan erupting and creating a spectacular plume of ash three miles high. local residents seen holding towels to their mouths and wearing masks to protect themselves. unemployment numbers may still be high and main street may still have the blues, but americans are starting to spend more money on high end items. some analysts call this the wealth affect. joining us, the senior correspondent and anchor of bulls and bears.
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thanks for coming back, brenda. >> absolutely. >> first describe form us what exactly is the wealth affect? >> the wealth affect is simply if you feel more rich, you will spend more. you will feel more rich if your stocks are up and your retirement plan is up and your housing prices are up. those are the two biggest part of most people's wealth. it works going up and it works growing down. if you feel less rich you will spend less and that's what we saw during the recession. >> feeling wealthier and actually being wealthier are two different things. is this a dangerous area for people to be treading? >> the truth is people have been cutting back on their debt during recovery which is a good thing. they are seeing housing prices slowly go up. they went up 13% year over year through june, but we went so far down so fast that we are no where near where we were when the bubble started. and in terms of stock prices,
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there is no arguing that we have had quite a rally. i mean, the s&p 500 which is part of your 401k is up some 16% so far this year alone. so there are tangible increases that people can see. >> so when you talk about stock prices and things like that, that's a different category of americans like higher income americans, more than lower income americans. how does this affect them? >> very good point. most don't have a 401k and they don't invest in stock. generally the supplies for the higher end -- or the higher part of the middle class. the truth is even though housing prices have gone up and the stock prices have gone up we have signs in the last week about consumer spending even though we did see it go up last month. wal-mart on the low end and in order in order -- nordstrom
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and macy's say it is cutting into their sales and looking forward they don't expect sales to go up. they were pessimistic. that was worrisome to the stock market and that's why the dow lost 2.2% last week which is the biggest weekly decline in more than a year. >> i was going to ask you about that. the number of unknowns on the horizon, i mean we have as you mentioned obamacare and a possible government shutdown. and then the situation going on in the middle east with egypt right now, all of that tends to tie in and affect the economy. in terms of individuals you have the retailers already raising a red flag. why aren't individuals seeing this and being a little more pessimistic. according to these numbers it appears they are not. >> again i think these retailers who were warning last week we should take that seriously. >> they will come first and then individuals will follow? >> they are reading from the individuals. they say the individuals are not buying up these stores and it is low end and high end. as you said there is great uncertainty in the two issues.
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housing prices, there is a real find that interest rates will go up and mortgage rates will go up and that could lead to a shaky foundation to the housing market. the bull market has been going for a long, longtime. if interest rates go up and they pull up on the bond buying binge it could have an impact on the stock market. the wealth affect may not be as strong. >> be cautious when you look at it. >> thank you. we appreciate you joining us as always. you can catch brenda every saturday morning. it is here on the fox newschannel. greg? >> coming up, we growing to show you new poll numbers. they reveal the number one issue you think is the biggest problem facing our country. our political insiders are here to weigh in.
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it is the bottom of the hour and that means it is the top of the news. muslim supporters have died in custody of egyptian police at a prison outside of cairo. there are conflicting reports on how they died. and more than 2,000 homes now evacuating in a massive wildfire in idaho. the beaver creek threatening a resort area where many celebrities have built their second homes. and the first abuse case against jerry sandusky has been settled. a young victim set to receive a multimillion-dollar payout. >> and now to a fox extreme weather alert for you. take a look at these pictures. it is growing concerns of flash flooding stretching from the gulf coast to the southeast. heavy rains are dumping up to a half a foot of water. janice dean has more for us. >> look at the radar over the last 48 hours and some of the
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same regions that have seen inches and inches of rain over the last self-weeks. so panhandle of florida and up toward alabama and georgia and into toward the southeast, we are going to see the potential for more rain unfortunately in the next several days. people are just saying when am i going to see the the stationary front will remain in place and we have a lot of tropical moisture feeding its way into the region. you can see we have seen in some cases 6 to 8 inches of heavy rain really within the last 48 hours on top of, again, incredible amounts we have seen over the last month. looking ahead to wednesday, anywhere from 3 to 5 inches in the areas you can see yellow and orange into red and the shaded areas. we have flood advisories and flood watches and warnings posted in the regions you can see green. and then in the maroon that's where we have the flash flood warning. it is happening right now.
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for atlanta, georgia a lot of folks in this area have been -- we can't believe how much rain we have seen the last couple weeks and it is going to be that for the next several days. friday we will get a little bit of a a break, but at least a 50% chance of showers for the next four days. flash flood watch posted until monday. and a quick look at where we saw the cool temperatures across the great lakes in the northeast. we have a warm up on the way. this week, heather and greg, i just wanted to bring some good news to the forecast. we will feel like summertime again this week, but as we head into next weekend we are talking about another cold front through the area. >> it kind of felt like fall in new york city today. >> yes, it did. a little warm up and then next week again feeling like fall. >> just a little tease. thank you, janice. greg? all right, some brand-new
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gallop poll numbers asking what is facing the country. the economy, unemployment and jobs. no surprise there. but look at that. 17% government corruption and abuse of power in health care and budget deficit. let's bring in our political insiders. our fox news contributors, the number that jumps out to you, the abuse of power is that a nod to the president's creeping authoritarianism? >> in a word, yes. bottom line the american people across the board have a sense that we have seen government showing profound contempt for the american people for the rule of law and a sense that government is responsive not to the people who elected them, but to themselves. there is profound
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contempt and it is a lawless government. >> some are accusing the president of ignoring or disbanding congress and ruling by executive order. >> it is a semideath spot. >> a monarch key. >> this country was -- we are now becoming a country of men and not laws. we have a political class, a ruling class, if you will, with the president at the height of it. it started with george bush saying, you know, cheney said well supremecy of the president. it has taken every week where it is going, let me tell you what we have here. we have the utter contempt of the american people. they are lulled by lies and we are basically depressed by cynicism from washington. all of the service of basically exiling the truth. >> and contempt for the constitution. >> contempt for the constitution. >> and a contempt for the idea of who is government and who is not. >> you served in congress so i
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will put this to you. the "wall street journal" poll, people are so ped up with government that 57% would replace every member of congress. >> in the past people say i hate congress, but i like my own congress. >> if this were to be true where they would vote out everybody it would be the single greatest way to fix our political system. it is to throw everybody out so that every one of these congress people is nervous when november comes around. unfortunately 90% know they will get re-elected. 95% know they will get re-elected. >> the system is rigged to make sure they do. >> now, the president has made a recent profession of calling the various scandals phony. and some are calling him dishonest when it comes sphreks to -- for example to the nsa. there is a new story out there.
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it is an audit of the nsa and it finds thousands and thousands of violations. the president said it wasn't happening. take a listen. >> if you look at the reports, even the disci's closures mr. snowden has put forward, all of the stories that have been written, what you are not reading about is the guest -- is the government actually abusing these programs and listening in on people's phone calls or inappropriately reading people's e-mails. what you are hearing about is the prospect that these could be abused. >> was the president dishonest , misinformed or clueless? >> well, i don't think we know the answer. he sure was not correct. the nsa's own audit that was released and published at the "washington post" on friday showed some 2700 abuses. this is from the -- >> just in the washington
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area? >> just in washington. >> greg, this is clearly a sense to go back to the nixon days of a steament by the president that sin operative. >> for every violation there could be thousands of americans who were violated. >> we haven't seen the whole area. >> and it is only an audit by themselves and of themselves. >> and of one collection iewbt and there are a great many of them. >> why trust any agency to investigate itself? we are not allowed to say i audited myself. >> i am glad you brought up the irs. here is another promise made by the president. it was back in may. take a listen. >> i reviewed the treasury department watchdog report and the misconduct that it covered is inexcusable. it is inexcusable and they have a right to be angry about it and i am angry about it.
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i will not tolerate this behavior in any agency, but especially the irs given the power it has and the reach it has. as i said earlier it should not matter what political strieb you are from. the fact of the matter is the irs has to operate what -- with absolute integrity. >> he is tolerating it, isn't he? an irs agent has testified that targeting is still going on. >> he and had administration have now said it is a phony scandal. the contridiction here is palpable. if the president didn't have a press that basically was with him in opposition that just rolled over, i mean he would be hoisted. people are not stupid, greg. >> it is the equivalent of nixon. when things are getting back he said the country has had enough of watering and watergate. >> it is a third rate
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burglary. >> but, greg, there is a difference between a burglary which wasn't third rate, which was outrageous and it was planned by the president's aids that the -- the president's aide said he the were covering up this is the irs, the ap, ben go gee. benghazi. there is a scandal of unprecedented proportions. the congressional leadership is not setting up select committees to look at this. don't you think the nsa should be looked at by a congressional committee? >> it was not long ago the president was rid sculling these groups -- ridiculing these groups targeted by the irs. here is a clip. >> you have seen the ads. every one of these groups is run by a republican operative even though they are posing as nonprofit groups with names like americans for prosperity, the committee for truth and politics or americans for apple pie.
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i made that last one up, but this is why -- look, this is why we've got to work even harder in this election. >> john? >> when he is saying that, he knew and i think we can say this now, but he knew that the irs was targeting those groups. there was -- there was the head of the irs had 158 times -- >> chute eve council appointed by obama was in on it. >> he okayed the criteria used to monitor these groups. what we have here is a nixon type of use of executive power to go after the administration's opponents. >> if a republican did what obama has done, what the obama administration has done there would be i believe an impeachment. >> they had an article of
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impeachment against nixon for musing about using the irs. here they are actually doing it. >> let me just say when you have as we saw with the health care iconic moment here where the president goes down and cuts a deal where the ruling class says oh no we have to protect the congress and their staff so they don't pay what we pay. he cuts the deal with boehner and the republican leadership you understand why the country wants to throw him out. >> let's put up the fox news poll serious situation or phony scandals and it lists the various ones. at the very top, benghazi, 78% saying this is serious. 17% say it is phony. question, is the president using intimidation? is he trying to hide people who may be involved and know something, or is he running out the clock or all of the above? >> i think it is all of the above. clearly he is not making the survivors available. he is clearly running out the clock. and he is basically attacking his opponents for having the
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temerity to criticism him. bottom line, this should be a democracy where free speech and dialogue back and forth goes. checks and balances are gone and we are moving -- >> we have got to now say as bad as all of this is that it is up to the opposition party to step up here and try to use -- >> but they are absent, john. >> the checks and balances of our system only work if they stand up -- >> guys, have to take a quick break. when we come back, we will talk about new jersey governor chris christie pulling no punches as he takes jabs of his own party. is this signs that his white house as separations are real? our political insiders are back after the break.
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a fox news alert for you. two people confirmed dead after a small plane crash in
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kansas city, missouri. are you looking at video from just moments ago. airport officials say the single engine aircraft crashed from taking off from charles wheeler downtown airport. no one else was on board and an investigation is underway. well here are other stories making headlines at this hour, a powerful typhoon triggers major flooding and massive landslides in china. dozens of people were killed and hundreds of thousands were forced to evacuate their homes. divers taking two more bodies from a sunken passenger ferry and 30 people dead and 80 missing from yesterday's accident. and pope francis is praying for the victims at sunday's mass at the vatican. he asked the faithful gathered in st. peter's square to pray for peace in egypt. >> inklings of an upcoming presidential primary fight.
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chris christie is taking some shots at louisiana governor bobbie gindel. this after he had earlier ripped into kentucky senator rand paul. is this healthy or self-destructive. joining us now with our political insiders. so there were no cameras in this one address. let's put it up on the screen what chris christie said. quote, i think we have folks who think they have to be college professors. i like that one. for our ideas to win we have to govern and if we don't win we don't govern. i am going to do anything i need to do to win. what do you think? >> that's politics 101. the larger issue we have are the republicans who are very unpopular have stark divisions on obamacare and on defense and on nsa. but bottom line, greg, when you have got a very unpopular president to have a circular
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firing squad doesn't make a lot of sense. >> but he tried to rationalize it today and said it is hill thee to have -- it is healthy to have these debates. >> we have a bunch of candidates running like little candidates and we knew they would be talking about the vast american people and the political class and not one of these candidates i can see has made a issue of health care and made the establishment and much less take on obama. >> and they all want to be conservative. to be the nominee you have to be conservative. the essence of conservatism is skepticism of government power and the abuse of power against us, the people. >> chris christie can hit here and say i want to win. what was the quote? i will do anything i need to win. today we learned that he has
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the romney campaign team running his campaign. >> look at the numbers. he is the only guy that beats hillary clinton. i know it is early, but he is a guy that can broaden the appeal of the party. >> he can broaden the appeal and he has the highest negative of the choice for president. >> ronald reagan is not too cons serve tiff -- cons serve tiff. it is the hug of president obama the week before the election. >> i liked his speech at the convention. i was one of the people who thought it was an interesting new approach. you have to have a message. most importantly you can talk about winning and you have to have a message and you know what presidential politics is about? it is about shaping the future. >> pat, you never heard ronald reagan ever talk publicly about the process, i am going to win, here is how to win a
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campaign. he talked to you, to the people about what is going to make your life better. >> you had the 11th commandment. >> the world is a different place than 1980. >> and you know what the american people want leadership. they want hope. they want a direction. they were very upset in 1979 and 1980 about the directionallist nature of america. and they were looking for hope and opportunity and a strategy for the future. >> oh i was there for that, let me tell you. it was not fun. >> the point with regan is he ran the primary and general election together. he was running on big ideas whether you thought was crazy and which he turned out to work. >> he has three years to come up with the big ideas. >> they should already have them now. regan had them for 40 years. the country caught up to regan. here is a problem with chris christie. he westbound in a town hall in -- he can be in a town hall in new jersey and attacking a public school teacher for
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wanting more goodies. he gets big applause. but he takes the same approach and uses it on fellow republicans and it doesn't work. >> there are two issues. the economy and abuse of power. the republicans need to speak to them. >> our political insiders, thank you very much. they have a lot to say. you can get more every monday 10:30 a.m. they will, of course, be back again next sunday. you can also follow them on twitter at fn insider. heather? still ahead, new cyber safety concerns rocking the medical field. what manufacturers of life saving devices are doing to stay alert to the risk of cyberattacks.
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welcome back. the makers of medical devices is now trying to fend off a rather terrifying threat, vulnerability to hackers. >> this after an fda warning that some implanted devices could be at risk of cyber uhing uhing -- cyberattacks. dr. nina ratcliff joins us now. what are we talking about? >> insulin pumps, pacemakers and defibrilator. >> those are the main ones and how would they be affected?
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>> it is possible that they can use something like a usb, key chain or even a smart phone in order to change and command these devices. >> could that really happen? i saw the homeland episode where the vice president was running for president. now, to be pro active? >> some hackers stated it is possible to do this. they want to bring public uh techs to it to -- attention to it to establish guidelines so doctors in hospitals can reduce -- >> you know, there was a
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young, infamous hacker that was being public in a threat toen -- to engage in this kind of action and then he turned up dead. he was rather young too. >> that is correct. what we do know is he was going to demonstrate that pacemakers can be adjusted. it is possible that it can kill them. >> patients with these devices implanted, no doubt they are concerned. no matter what we are saying here. what did they need to talk to their doctors about? >> there was no reason for hysteria. 24r* was no reported cases. the fda and a number of other agencies are looking to establish some guidelines to prevent this from happening. these guidelines will increase en crypting communication and find out a way to command that device. and to make thur any changes -- to make sure any changes come from communications. we don't want the smart phone to do that. >> you know our business network tried to get in touch with some of the device
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makers. abbott labs, johnson and johnson and guess what, none could be reached for comment. are they taking the necessary and extraordinary precautions to make sure it does not happen and that all of this stuff is secure? >> we are hoping so. this is the right thing to do. they do face legal liability should something happen. it could be considered negligence. i am hoping working together with the fda and the other agencies will reduce this from happening. >> who else could be held accountable legally? >> the device makers and the hospitals. they do call in and they figure out what is going on with the pacemakers. so we can really be all encompassing that. >> and these device makers that provide alleged security for this stuff, they would be legally liable if somebody is harmed. >> it could be considered negligent. >> in some cases if somebody
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dies as a consequence it could be wrongful death. >> but not a situation where people need to go into their doctor and say let's remove this and let's put in something else. >> i don't want anybody to lose faith in this. i am applauding them for being pro active. they are trying to prevent this from happening. >> good for the fda to publicize and this to warn people about it. to fraud device makers into doing something. dr. nina ratcliff thank you so much. >> thank you. that's going to do it for us. fox news with john roberts filling in for chris wallace is up next. >> and then i will see you back here in an hour with "the fox report" and then don't forget" fox and friends first" jie. have a great week, everybody. bye-bye.
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